Robert John  ‎(I2066)‎
Given Names: Robert
Surname: John

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Show Details Source: Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 14-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3

   


Gender: MaleMale
      

Birth: about 1799
Death: Yes
Personal Facts and Details
Birth about 1799


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Source: 1841 Census


Show Details Shared Note: - Note that Ann Willis had Robert JOHN born 1801 at Shirenewton, Monmouthshire, but I have not been able to find any evidence for this.

Michael Jones email 23-Aug-07:
Robert John's baptism was transcribed incorrectly, it became Jones.. 29th July 1799 to Thomas and Rachel ‎(i have not got a clue who Rachel is!)‎. This is rather weird as his entries on the 1851 and 1861 ‎[censuses]‎ are also Jones... The actual baptism register is a bit inconclusive though, by im satisfied its John.
The father Thomas though was certainly baptized a John....

Christening 29 July 1799 Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales


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Show Details Source: Parish Register - Pyle & Kenfig, St.James
Publication: Transcript 1996
Citation Details:  Baptisms 1695 - 1876
  Text: 29 Jul 1799 JONES, Robert, father Thomas, mother Rachel
Quality of Data: 3

Show Details Source: Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 23-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3

Marriage Catherine Rees - 15 May 1830 ‎(Age 31)‎ Margam Abbey, Margam, Glamorgan, Wales


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Show Details Source: Margam Parish Register

Citation Details:  John, Robert and Rees, Catherine, both of Margam 15 May 1830
Quality of Data: 3


Show Details Shared Note: - Message from Michael Jones 14-Aug-07

‎[Daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎ shares the same 3rd great grandparents on both sides. They are Robert John and Catherine Rees. 1. Their daughter Catherine‎(born 1830)‎ Married William Thomas ‎(who is a direct descendant of Isod Thomas born 1786)‎. William and Catherine's daughter Elizabeth ‎(born 1863)‎ is the a Maternal Grandmother to Mary Izod Loveluck. 2. Their son Rees is ‎[...]‎ 2nd great grandad of ‎[daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎

James Loveluck 22-Aug-07:
I couldn't find this family in the 1851 Glamorgan census

This is probably because I was looking for John, rather than Jones ...

Michael Jones 23-Aug-07:
entries on the 1851 and 1861 ‎(census)‎ are also Jones...

Show Details Source: Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 14-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3


Occupation

Note: Ag/Labourer
Census Catherine Rees - 1841 ‎(Age 42)‎ Heol Kenfig, Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales


Show Details Note:
Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD

District Name: Bridgend Enumeration District: 15 Kenfig

Piece: 1422/09 Folio: 011 Schedule: 006

Address: HEOL KENFIG

B 62 011 006 HEOL KENFIG JOHN ROBERT 40 ‎(c1801)‎
AG.LAB. YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 35 ‎(c1806)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 11 ‎(c1830)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN DAVID 6 ‎(c1835)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN ELIZABETH 4 ‎(c1837)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN REES 2 ‎(c1839)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN JENNET 8 ‎(c1833)‎ - YES

Census Catherine Rees - 1851 ‎(Age 52)‎ Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales


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Source: 1851 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1851


Show Details Note:
NB Surname recorded as Jones rather than John , but this seems to e the same family

2461 1851 CENSUS OF PYLE AND KENFIG PARISHES. REF.H.O.107/2461, E.D.17 & 18.

Piece: 2461 Folio: 827 Schedule: 046

Address: KENFIG VILLAGE

JONES ROBERT HD M 50 AGR.LABOURER
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 47
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 11
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1840)‎
JONES ROBERT SO U 9
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1842)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 5
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎
JONES THOMAS LG U 44 AGR.LABOURER
CMN CARMARTHEN TOWN ‎(c1807)‎

Census Catherine Rees - 1861 ‎(Age 62)‎ Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales


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Source: 1861 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1861


Show Details Note:
Note: Although the surname is recorded as Jones, this is clearly the family of Robert and catherine JOHN

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4079 1861 CENSUS OF PYLE ‎(PART)‎ & KENFIG PARISH. REF.R.G.9/4079, E.D.14.

Piece: 4079 Folio: 072 Schedule: 153

Address: KENFIG STREET 13

JONES ROBERT HD M 60 AG. LAB.
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 57 -
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 21 AG. LAB.
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1840)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 15 AP. BLACKSMITH
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎

DeathYes
Globally unique Identifier 5D7FF583F51747CFBAA76CA51AFEE0AC8CC4
Last Change 23 February 2008 - 15:12
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Parents Family  (F680)
Thomas John
-
Rachel Unknown
-
Robert John
1799 -

Immediate Family  (F674)
Catherine Rees
1806 -
Catherine John
1830 - 1890
Jennet John
1832 -
David John
1835 -
Elizabeth John
1837 -
Rees John
1839 -
Robert John
1842 -
Thomas John
1845 -


Notes

Shared Note
At the time of their marriage Robert was a batchelor and Catherine a spinster
both of the parish of Margam, and the Banns were called. Their witnesses
were Margaret Joseph and Evan Morgan. On the 1841 census the family is shown
at Heol Kenfig, Kenfig.


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Source: Ann Willis gedcom file number 2
Publication: Provided by Ann Willis via email 5 May 2001

Birth Note that Ann Willis had Robert JOHN born 1801 at Shirenewton, Monmouthshire, but I have not been able to find any evidence for this.

Michael Jones email 23-Aug-07:
Robert John's baptism was transcribed incorrectly, it became Jones.. 29th July 1799 to Thomas and Rachel ‎(i have not got a clue who Rachel is!)‎. This is rather weird as his entries on the 1851 and 1861 ‎[censuses]‎ are also Jones... The actual baptism register is a bit inconclusive though, by im satisfied its John.
The father Thomas though was certainly baptized a John....

Marriage Message from Michael Jones 14-Aug-07

‎[Daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎ shares the same 3rd great grandparents on both sides. They are Robert John and Catherine Rees. 1. Their daughter Catherine‎(born 1830)‎ Married William Thomas ‎(who is a direct descendant of Isod Thomas born 1786)‎. William and Catherine's daughter Elizabeth ‎(born 1863)‎ is the a Maternal Grandmother to Mary Izod Loveluck. 2. Their son Rees is ‎[...]‎ 2nd great grandad of ‎[daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎

James Loveluck 22-Aug-07:
I couldn't find this family in the 1851 Glamorgan census

This is probably because I was looking for John, rather than Jones ...

Michael Jones 23-Aug-07:
entries on the 1851 and 1861 ‎(census)‎ are also Jones...


Show Details Source: Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 14-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3

Marriage Message from Michael Jones 14-Aug-07

‎[Daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎ shares the same 3rd great grandparents on both sides. They are Robert John and Catherine Rees. 1. Their daughter Catherine‎(born 1830)‎ Married William Thomas ‎(who is a direct descendant of Isod Thomas born 1786)‎. William and Catherine's daughter Elizabeth ‎(born 1863)‎ is the a Maternal Grandmother to Mary Izod Loveluck. 2. Their son Rees is ‎[...]‎ 2nd great grandad of ‎[daughter of Glynford John & Mary Isod Loveluck]‎

James Loveluck 22-Aug-07:
I couldn't find this family in the 1851 Glamorgan census

This is probably because I was looking for John, rather than Jones ...

Michael Jones 23-Aug-07:
entries on the 1851 and 1861 ‎(census)‎ are also Jones...


Show Details Source: Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 14-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3

Occupation Ag/Labourer
Census
Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD

District Name: Bridgend Enumeration District: 15 Kenfig

Piece: 1422/09 Folio: 011 Schedule: 006

Address: HEOL KENFIG

B 62 011 006 HEOL KENFIG JOHN ROBERT 40 ‎(c1801)‎
AG.LAB. YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 35 ‎(c1806)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 11 ‎(c1830)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN DAVID 6 ‎(c1835)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN ELIZABETH 4 ‎(c1837)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN REES 2 ‎(c1839)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN JENNET 8 ‎(c1833)‎ - YES
Census
Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD

District Name: Bridgend Enumeration District: 15 Kenfig

Piece: 1422/09 Folio: 011 Schedule: 006

Address: HEOL KENFIG

B 62 011 006 HEOL KENFIG JOHN ROBERT 40 ‎(c1801)‎
AG.LAB. YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 35 ‎(c1806)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN CATHERINE 11 ‎(c1830)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN DAVID 6 ‎(c1835)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN ELIZABETH 4 ‎(c1837)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN REES 2 ‎(c1839)‎ - YES
B 62 JOHN JENNET 8 ‎(c1833)‎ - YES
Census
NB Surname recorded as Jones rather than John , but this seems to e the same family

2461 1851 CENSUS OF PYLE AND KENFIG PARISHES. REF.H.O.107/2461, E.D.17 & 18.

Piece: 2461 Folio: 827 Schedule: 046

Address: KENFIG VILLAGE

JONES ROBERT HD M 50 AGR.LABOURER
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 47
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 11
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1840)‎
JONES ROBERT SO U 9
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1842)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 5
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎
JONES THOMAS LG U 44 AGR.LABOURER
CMN CARMARTHEN TOWN ‎(c1807)‎
Census
NB Surname recorded as Jones rather than John , but this seems to e the same family

2461 1851 CENSUS OF PYLE AND KENFIG PARISHES. REF.H.O.107/2461, E.D.17 & 18.

Piece: 2461 Folio: 827 Schedule: 046

Address: KENFIG VILLAGE

JONES ROBERT HD M 50 AGR.LABOURER
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 47
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 11
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1840)‎
JONES ROBERT SO U 9
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1842)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 5
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎
JONES THOMAS LG U 44 AGR.LABOURER
CMN CARMARTHEN TOWN ‎(c1807)‎
Census
Note: Although the surname is recorded as Jones, this is clearly the family of Robert and catherine JOHN

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4079 1861 CENSUS OF PYLE ‎(PART)‎ & KENFIG PARISH. REF.R.G.9/4079, E.D.14.

Piece: 4079 Folio: 072 Schedule: 153

Address: KENFIG STREET 13

JONES ROBERT HD M 60 AG. LAB.
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 57 -
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 21 AG. LAB.
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1840)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 15 AP. BLACKSMITH
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎
Census
Note: Although the surname is recorded as Jones, this is clearly the family of Robert and catherine JOHN

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD

4079 1861 CENSUS OF PYLE ‎(PART)‎ & KENFIG PARISH. REF.R.G.9/4079, E.D.14.

Piece: 4079 Folio: 072 Schedule: 153

Address: KENFIG STREET 13

JONES ROBERT HD M 60 AG. LAB.
GLA PYLE ‎(c1801)‎
JONES CATHERINE WI M 57 -
GLA MARGAM ‎(c1804)‎
JONES REES SO U 21 AG. LAB.
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1840)‎
JONES THOMAS SO U 15 AP. BLACKSMITH
GLA KENFIG ‎(c1846)‎

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Sources

Source
Ann Willis gedcom file number 2
Publication: Provided by Ann Willis via email 5 May 2001
Name Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 14-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3
Birth 1841 Census
Christening Parish Register - Pyle & Kenfig, St.James
Publication: Transcript 1996
Citation Details:  Baptisms 1695 - 1876
  Text: 29 Jul 1799 JONES, Robert, father Thomas, mother Rachel
Quality of Data: 3
Christening Michael Jones
Publication: Email correspondence
Citation Details:  Email message 23-Aug-07
Quality of Data: 3
Marriage Margam Parish Register
Citation Details:  John, Robert and Rees, Catherine, both of Margam 15 May 1830
Quality of Data: 3
Marriage Margam Parish Register
Citation Details:  John, Robert and Rees, Catherine, both of Margam 15 May 1830
Quality of Data: 3
Marriage Margam Parish Register
Citation Details:  John, Robert and Rees, Catherine, both of Margam 15 May 1830
Quality of Data: 3
Census 1851 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1851
Census 1851 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1851
Census 1851 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1851
Census 1861 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1861
Census 1861 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1861
Census 1861 UK Census
Publication: Glamorgan FHS - Glamorgan census 1861

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Family with Parents
Father
Thomas John ‎(I2096)‎
Death Yes
Mother
Rachel Unknown ‎(I2097)‎
Death Yes

#1
Robert John ‎(I2066)‎
Birth about 1799
Death Yes
Family with Catherine Rees
Robert John ‎(I2066)‎
Birth about 1799
Death Yes
7 years
Wife
 
Catherine Rees ‎(I2065)‎
Birth 1806 Margam, Glamorgan, Wales
Death Yes

Marriage: 15 May 1830 -- Margam Abbey, Margam, Glamorgan, Wales
-4 months
#1
Daughter
Catherine John ‎(I2060)‎
Birth 1830 31 24 Margam, Glamorgan, Wales
Death 28 July 1890 ‎(Age 60)‎ Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales
2 years
#2
Daughter
Jennet John ‎(I2083)‎
Birth about 1832 33 26
Death Yes
3 years
#3
Son
David John ‎(I2081)‎
Birth about 1835 36 29
Death Yes
2 years
#4
Daughter
Elizabeth John ‎(I2082)‎
Birth about 1837 38 31
Death Yes
3 years
#5
Son
Rees John ‎(I2077)‎
Christening 20 August 1839 Margam, Glamorgan, Wales
Death Yes
2 years
#6
Son
Robert John ‎(I2094)‎
Birth about 1842 43 36 Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales
Death Yes
3 years
#7
Son
Thomas John ‎(I2095)‎
Birth about 1845 46 39 Kenfig, Glamorgan, Wales
Death Yes